Betty Mahmoody Message Board
Marilyn L. posts on 12/5/2007 9:34:23 AM
Responding to the lady whose son is on duty in Morocco and he gets requests from women for help against hushands who are holding them against their will or beating them. I assume these women are American. My information may be dated but when I lived in Kuwait in the 70s, if American women wanted to leave the country due to abuse, the Amer. Embassy would help them but they could not help them get the children out. The mother would have to leave alone. Things may have changed. The best move would be to contact the Amer. Embassy for help. I had my children ripped away from me by a Muslim Arab husband. I wonder if there's some organization somewhere here in the states where we women can talk to one another, a website?
Natalie M Morhart posts on 12/4/2007 1:37:12 PM
Aisha- this is not about American men this is about islam men. This forum is about a american woman who was beaten by her islamic husband. No one is saying that American men don't beat their wives. What we are saying is it is illegal in our country- there is help for woman in our country if that happens to them. On the contrary it is encouraged in the islamic countries. As Cara stated it is actually written in doctrine that these people use as everyday rules to guide their lives in right and wrong. You seem to be the one who is misinformed about islam.
Aisha posts on 11/30/2007 4:45:35 PM
You people make it sound like Muslim men are the only ones beating their wives. Can you honestly tell there aren't men in America who beat their wives????? Or ANYWHERE in the world for that matter??? The kind of man that beats his wife is an insecure man, who's only way of feeling powerful is beating people who can't defend themselves. It doesn't have anything to do with religion. If you are going to judge Islam based on this book, and these terrorist idiots who undermine Islam, then you are not bothering to understand Islam.
Natalie M Morhart posts on 11/29/2007 4:59:58 PM
Jennine- it is not a playground you are right! This is the real world. The point I think Cara was making (which I happen to agree with-) is that it may be cultural but the people of the islam faith are beating and abusing their wives. People who are apparently devout in their religion are doing this horrible things to the women there. So it really doesn't matter what the Koran says does it? Because the people are carring on how they want to. Futhermore, Cara provided the proof that it is written in the Koran. So, don't act like we are idiots for believing a certain way about Islams and Muslims when it is written in black and white in the doctrine that you hold so sacred.
Rose Young posts on 11/28/2007 10:51:19 PM
I am curious if anyone can point me to a website that details how many American women are held against their will in Muslim countries? The reason I am asking is my son is a Marine security guard for an embassy in Morocco. He said he has phone calls from women who want the embassy's help because they are being held against their will or being beaten.
AnonymousMe posts on 10/10/2007 6:09:06 PM
Betty Mahmoody and her daughter are both heroines and 'Not Without My Daughter' is a wonderful book.
Anonymous posts on 8/27/2007 11:37:30 AM
Jennine - I did not get my information about the Koran's treatment of women from Not Without My Daughter. This is from Chapter 4, Verse 34 of the Koran: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
linda posts on 8/25/2007 1:12:57 PM
the movie makes me very sad.i have family stuck in saudia and cant get them out.i dont know how or where to begin.Betty is a very strong woman
Cindy posts on 8/14/2007 4:57:38 PM
I lead a book discussion group and our book for this month was "Not Without My Daughter". Loved the book, very well written and definately held my interest. The problem: I need discussion questions and couldn't find any on the net. Does anyone have discussion questions or know where to look? Thanks in advance!
Jennine posts on 8/12/2007 12:02:55 AM
Yes, i see where you are coming from.
Point one- You retrieved this information from 'Not without my daughter' correct? Well, this is not true and i will prove my point, the book, 'Forbidden Love' by Norma, she wrote a whole lot of fake things about Islam and later on admitted her book was a hoax and made everything up. Again, nothing against betty, but what she enlisted in her book is not true..
Point 2 - NOW THIS IS THE BIT WHICH PISSES ME OFF! Look, the things that go on in Islamic countries are CULTURAL and i repeat CULTURAL, THEY ARE CULTURAL UPBRINGINGS! THE QURAN HAS GIVEN EQUAL RIGHTS TO MEN AND WOMEN! EQUAL RIGHTS! WHY CAN'T ANYONE SINK THAT THROUGH THEIR HEADS?
STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS AND RELYING ON INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO JUDGE ISLAM!
THE BEATINGS, AND NO RIGHTS FOR WOMAN, NO JOBS, NO DIVORCE IS CULTURAL, NOT ISLAMIC!!!!
THEY (MIDDLE EASTERN CULTURES) ARE DOING THE WRONG THING, BECAUSE ISLAM DOES NOT ACCEPT ANY OF THIS AT ALL!!!
Seriously, i have had a rough time coping with this. I have to explain to everyone i meet that, this is all cultural. I HATE GOING THROUGH IT AGAIN AND AGAIN!!
Islam is all about peace! PEACE!
The islamic greeting is:
PEACE BE ON YOU!!
NOW DO YOU REALLY SERIOUSLY THINK THAT ISLAM WOULD ALLOW ALL OF THAT. COME ON, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT! WE ARE NOT IN A SCHOOL PLAYGROUND!!!!!!!!
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