Betty Mahmoody Message Board
Eric posts on 7/24/2007 1:38:19 AM
I would like to somehow get into contact with Betty and her Daughter!
My name is Eric and I am presently going through an almost identical situation as Betty did many years ago, but "in reverse". Let me explain a little. I'll leave out most of the details for now. If I tell you everything I truly could write a book just as Betty has done and you or I for now do not have the time.
I was stationed overseas at Incirlik AB Turkey as an enlisted airman. I met this Iranian woman and we got married. We then came to the U.S. and have known each other since 1994. I am since divorced and was married for 7 years, but lived with her for 13 years along with her whole family for the past 7 years. I have a 15 month old daughter with my ex-wife of which the last 5 months I have been unable to see her up until last week. I see Nicole 2.5 hours, twice a week under supervision. I'll give you a minute to do the math on all this. this board doesn't allow me to write anymore.
Jennine posts on 7/18/2007 6:29:55 AM
This message is directed to Anita.
I am Palestinian Muslim Australian and i think that you converting to Islam is great. Insha'Allah you will get the best out of it.
Islam looks different when it is coming out of fox news and media then it does from the holy Quran.
Men and women in Islam have equal rights. In fact women had the right to divorce, own land and property and vote thousands of years before the western world had given those rights.
A husband to hit his wife is NOT accepted in Islam. It is simply part of vicious culture in the Middle east. There are so many things to learn. I wish you the very best.
P.S. You do not need to learn Arabic extremely, as long as you have the right intention, you do not need your tongue.
Deidre posts on 7/8/2007 3:12:07 AM
Canada & Mexico is not part of the U.S.A. If you looked on a map or had learned that school, you'd know that. I am reading Betty's book again. Yes, there are abusieve men in very race as there are abusieve women in every race.
Ginger posts on 6/1/2007 12:51:18 AM
Since the year "Not without my daughter" came out, I have watched it every time. My heart breaks, and I just dont understand the whole issue, but I am so proud of Betty and Mahtob. I hope even after all these years, they know, they matter....they impact.....and we realize their suffering.
Cara posts on 5/21/2007 12:48:51 PM
Betty has been a successful lecturer for the past 20 years or so. She still lectures at private functions, often with Mahtob by her side, who also speaks to private groups. As far as I know, Mahtob has refused all contact with her father, since he decided it would be nice to see her again, many years after they fled Iran. He never wrote her letters or called the house, until she was adult. I don't even understand that.
Karen Bennett posts on 5/21/2007 12:44:53 PM
What has happened to Betty? I am interested in Betty and her daughter, and this site has gone far astray from the original message board.
Babs posts on 5/20/2007 11:53:03 AM
what happened to Betty's daughter. Did her husband ever see either of them again?
civilengineer3 posts on 1/22/2007 1:10:15 AM
Thank you anonymous- I have been waiting to finally post my opinion to this book for 2 days now. I liked your post by the way. I agree I don't know if I would let a current or a future relationship pay for therapy for a past one- doesn't really seem like a good idea to me. Anyway (Maxine you are not going to like my post here). But I don't think that this book is sterotypical at all. I think it is Betty's facts, and opinions as she viewed them to be. I happen to agree with alot of her views on the Iranians as well. I do agree that they have little respect for woman kind, and that causes some of the men in that culture to be quite abusive. I am not prejudice. I know a few Iranian, Indian, and Pakastanie women who feel this way. Maxine, I know what you are going to say, again it is my opinion, and like Natalie I am allowed to express it. I am not saying that American men are wonderful. I am just saying I disagree with Maxine. I think Iranian men can be just as abusive, as any other race of men. And because of their cultural beliefs maybe more so. Just so you know Maxine, before you start something here, I am not going to debate my opinions, back and forth with you like Natalie did. That is my opinion and that is it, take it or leave it.
Anonymous posts on 1/21/2007 10:18:41 PM
Maxine, listen, just some thoughts. Do think it is a good idea that you allowed your boyfriend to pay for your therapy (especially when so much of it has to do with a past reationship)? That would really muddy the waters in the discernment process for me personally, and I would be afraid put undue pressure on my boyfriend.
civilengineer3 posts on 1/19/2007 9:26:44 AM
Maxine look, I really do not want to get involved in this, but since every one here seems to keep bringing my name up. Then I guess I will throw my two cents in. I think Natalie was very harsh. But I can't say I blame her. I mean it looks like she has been trying to express her opinion for 3 days now, and you keep telling her she is wrong. She does seem to be angry, but honestly I would be angry too if I wasn't being heard correctly. Even now you applaud myself and Anita for our handling our problem, and then go on to insult her, and apologize to her all at the same time. You even go so far as to almost accuse her of child abuse. Let me say on my behalf I think you are way out of line on that comment. I think you owe her an apology, that is a serious accusation to make. I am a teacher I know I see it all the time. I must say I had planned to mind my own business until I read that, and it was just so over the line I had to respond. I am not intending to be mean. But, just because your husband abused you, doesn't give you the right to analyze someone else's anger as abuse. I teach my 2nd graders that anger is healthy, it is an emotion that is you are allowed to have. It is what you do with your anger that counts. You don't know what she does with hers, so don't put that kind of label on it. Some of the comments that you make leave me wondering if maybe you need the therapy not Natalie. Particularly regarding the control issues you seem to have. Having to get the last word, passive aggressiveness (like apologizing and then insulting her), and addressing the post to myself and Anita, but talking about her, your need to keep goating her to respond to you. You even accuse her of not having a masters degree. What's next are you going to accuse me of not being a teacher? Truthfully, when you said that it just sounded like you were jealous, not that you really think she is lying. You said that you are not jumping down her throat, but it seems to me like you are. I am not saying that she didn't jump down your throat, but it sounds to me like you are trying to make yourself a victim on these posts, and well quite frankly from what I have read you aren't! I think she was just trying to pass an opinion, and it offended you, you both exchanged harsh words, but now it should be over, and you seem to be the one to keep it going. Now, you seem to be taking it to a whole new level. I guarentee that you are going to respond to me, and from the looks of it probably nasty. If Natalie posts again you will respond to her too. Atleast, Anita was an adult enough to apologize, mean it, and end it. It seems to me that the 19 year old is more mature. Look, I don't want to sound like a mother Hen here, maybe it's because I am a teacher, and I listen to this stuff all day long. But, I gotta say you guys are starting to remind me of my 2nd graders. I mean are you guys just going to keep this going forever. You say something, so she says something, and on and on it will go. Natalie is right, all this posting like this takes away the fun for everyone else. I came on here again to try, once again to post my opinion on the book, and I got caught up in all of this nonsense here after I said I wasn't going to. Maxine, on behalf of all us other posters, apologize to Natalie for the out of line abuse comment, and STOP POSTING to her, just let it go. We are tired of this conversation just let it go.
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