Betty Mahmoody Message Board
Anonymous posts on 8/27/2007 11:37:30 AM
Jennine - I did not get my information about the Koran's treatment of women from Not Without My Daughter. This is from Chapter 4, Verse 34 of the Koran: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
linda posts on 8/25/2007 1:12:57 PM
the movie makes me very sad.i have family stuck in saudia and cant get them out.i dont know how or where to begin.Betty is a very strong woman
Cindy posts on 8/14/2007 4:57:38 PM
I lead a book discussion group and our book for this month was "Not Without My Daughter". Loved the book, very well written and definately held my interest. The problem: I need discussion questions and couldn't find any on the net. Does anyone have discussion questions or know where to look? Thanks in advance!
Jennine posts on 8/12/2007 12:02:55 AM
Yes, i see where you are coming from.
Point one- You retrieved this information from 'Not without my daughter' correct? Well, this is not true and i will prove my point, the book, 'Forbidden Love' by Norma, she wrote a whole lot of fake things about Islam and later on admitted her book was a hoax and made everything up. Again, nothing against betty, but what she enlisted in her book is not true..
Point 2 - NOW THIS IS THE BIT WHICH PISSES ME OFF! Look, the things that go on in Islamic countries are CULTURAL and i repeat CULTURAL, THEY ARE CULTURAL UPBRINGINGS! THE QURAN HAS GIVEN EQUAL RIGHTS TO MEN AND WOMEN! EQUAL RIGHTS! WHY CAN'T ANYONE SINK THAT THROUGH THEIR HEADS?
STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS AND RELYING ON INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO JUDGE ISLAM!
THE BEATINGS, AND NO RIGHTS FOR WOMAN, NO JOBS, NO DIVORCE IS CULTURAL, NOT ISLAMIC!!!!
THEY (MIDDLE EASTERN CULTURES) ARE DOING THE WRONG THING, BECAUSE ISLAM DOES NOT ACCEPT ANY OF THIS AT ALL!!!
Seriously, i have had a rough time coping with this. I have to explain to everyone i meet that, this is all cultural. I HATE GOING THROUGH IT AGAIN AND AGAIN!!
Islam is all about peace! PEACE!
The islamic greeting is:
PEACE BE ON YOU!!
NOW DO YOU REALLY SERIOUSLY THINK THAT ISLAM WOULD ALLOW ALL OF THAT. COME ON, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT! WE ARE NOT IN A SCHOOL PLAYGROUND!!!!!!!!
Eric posts on 7/24/2007 12:49:44 PM
sorry this message is cropped. it doesn't allow me to post my entire message.
Kind of funny how I can't even be with or see my daughter in my own country and yet they are the ones who have her. She drew first blood with filing a restraining order against me under false allegations along with criminal charges also under false allegations. I was almost on my way to prison, just from mere allegations. The same way Betty had to deal with her husband and her family while in Iran, I am dealing with it right here. They couldn't have got anything without me and their ex-spouses who are also all Americans. Just as an aside, it's quite interesting how Betty, myself and 3 ex-spouses are all from the midwest; Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, and although not midwest, rural Texas. Everything they have monetarily, materially, educationally, etc. was all gained under my sweat and tears along side their lies and deceit.
Cara posts on 7/24/2007 12:11:28 PM
Jennine - you say it isn't acceptable for a husband to hit his wife in Islam. According to the Koran, if a wife transgresses, a man must talk to her, abandon her, then beat her as a last resort. Whatever equal rights Islam gave women many years ago is moot, because today, a Muslim woman in an Islamic country does not have the right to divorce her husband, or if she does, she has no right to the children. And remember, the terrorists who are causing good Muslims so many problems are doing all these things in the NAME of ISLAM. So they were taught these things by someone, and it probably wasn't taught to them by an Episcopalian.
Eric posts on 7/24/2007 1:38:19 AM
I would like to somehow get into contact with Betty and her Daughter!
My name is Eric and I am presently going through an almost identical situation as Betty did many years ago, but "in reverse". Let me explain a little. I'll leave out most of the details for now. If I tell you everything I truly could write a book just as Betty has done and you or I for now do not have the time.
I was stationed overseas at Incirlik AB Turkey as an enlisted airman. I met this Iranian woman and we got married. We then came to the U.S. and have known each other since 1994. I am since divorced and was married for 7 years, but lived with her for 13 years along with her whole family for the past 7 years. I have a 15 month old daughter with my ex-wife of which the last 5 months I have been unable to see her up until last week. I see Nicole 2.5 hours, twice a week under supervision. I'll give you a minute to do the math on all this. this board doesn't allow me to write anymore.
Jennine posts on 7/18/2007 6:29:55 AM
This message is directed to Anita.
I am Palestinian Muslim Australian and i think that you converting to Islam is great. Insha'Allah you will get the best out of it.
Islam looks different when it is coming out of fox news and media then it does from the holy Quran.
Men and women in Islam have equal rights. In fact women had the right to divorce, own land and property and vote thousands of years before the western world had given those rights.
A husband to hit his wife is NOT accepted in Islam. It is simply part of vicious culture in the Middle east. There are so many things to learn. I wish you the very best.
P.S. You do not need to learn Arabic extremely, as long as you have the right intention, you do not need your tongue.
Deidre posts on 7/8/2007 3:12:07 AM
Canada & Mexico is not part of the U.S.A. If you looked on a map or had learned that school, you'd know that. I am reading Betty's book again. Yes, there are abusieve men in very race as there are abusieve women in every race.
Ginger posts on 6/1/2007 12:51:18 AM
Since the year "Not without my daughter" came out, I have watched it every time. My heart breaks, and I just dont understand the whole issue, but I am so proud of Betty and Mahtob. I hope even after all these years, they know, they matter....they impact.....and we realize their suffering.
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