Christina Crawford Message Board
Thaddeus posts on 7/30/2007 9:35:00 AM
A pathological narcissist like Joan Crawford is actually two people. First is her image, which must be "perfect." Second is her real human identity behind the mask, which is increasingly self-hating for failing to be "perfect." That split inside would drive anyone crazy, as self-esteem rides a rollercoater up and down between the two. And since the "perfect" image must never be at fault, the pathological narcissist needs a scapegoat to blame when things inevitably go wrong, to punish for the excruciating shame which can't be admitted. That scapegoat was Christina Crawford. Those who doubt her story of abuse only saw Joan Crawford's well-crafted Hollywood image, not the raging, aging alcoholic it disguised.
mary slone posts on 5/8/2007 10:13:39 AM
i have watched mommie deareast over the years and in the end of the movie you ll see christins and christophher in a office and a man reads joans will saying no one gits any thing and christopher speaks and says as usual mother gets thelast word.and chiristina says or does she. meaning after that she wrote book about her to get money and movie.i think some things was true but not every thing.
Ross Hunter posts on 3/22/2007 12:39:54 PM
Is their anyone out their that knew Joan Crawford that can confirm Christins story.I would like to hear from them. Also was there any one that
went to school with Christina that can
confirm Christina's story that she was
confined to flintridge chathlic school.
I would like to hear from them.
Kimberly Kirkland posts on 3/16/2007 10:05:46 PM
I believe the book to be a true account of Christina's childhood.Joan Crawfords childhood was about like the one she subjected her child to.Joan's own mother forced her to clean (because her mother was too lazy to do her own work), sent her off to boarding school and ingored her for the most part. With the mix of 100 proof vodka and pills its not hard to believe that the child were abused in some or more of the same ways that Joan was.Its true the young two child denied the abuse but they also had spent less time with Joan because she was busy in a bottle of booze- they also have changed their story more than once.
Jim Kennelly posts on 3/5/2007 1:50:37 PM
I can not believe how some people think she lied. On this subject, I have read numerous accounts from other stars who actually witnessed what went on in Christinas life and what Joan Crawford did to them. As a servivor of abuse myself, I could not believe the had the behavior protrayed in the movie and how my own mother acted was the same, it was like I was watching my own childhood on the screen.
Janet Maday posts on 2/17/2007 6:50:52 PM
Anyone who has ever read about child abuse cases (and that is exactly what happened to Christina and Christopher) knows that very often the abusive parent picks one child out to abuse. The twins were raised later in Joan's life. Joan's own book, My Way of Life, describes the idyllic life she had with Mr. Steele and the children in their apartment in NYC. In reality, there was ONE bedroom, and none of the children ever lived with her, even the twin girls - they lived across the street with their Nanny. Joan was a heavy drinker and while a great star, was tortured by her own script that was written for her as a child and Christina and Christopher suffered for many years. As a Joan Crawford fan, I learned many years ago to separate the woman from the star. They were NOT the same person! You can love Joan as an actress, but that doesn't mean her children didn't suffer due to her mental problems exacerbated by alcohol and a terrible childhood herself!
ross hunter posts on 2/16/2007 9:29:43 PM
Why is it that only Christina,and Christper complain about the abuse,but
the twins don't. As a matter of fact
they clain she lied.Something went wrong for christina to write all that
Cici posts on 1/18/2007 6:06:16 PM
I believe "Mommie Dearest". I too have an abusive mother. I was mentally, morally, physically and emotionally abused by my mother. It is true that an abusive mother shifts the responsibility to the abused child because they themselves possess a mental disorder. My mother was a monster. I will always hate for the ugly and monstrous things she did to me. When I was young, I thought someday, she'll payback. Now I know what bad Karma is all about. Because now, she is paying for her Karma. She is old, alone and nobody wants her.
Azuree posts on 1/6/2007 3:39:20 PM
To Ross Hunter: Yes, I agree with your point about the inconsistancies in Christina Crawford's "Mommie Dearest"; the Catholic school slip was one of a few, actually. Still, what I think she was trying to convey was that her mother rather unfairly shut her off from the outside world for nearly two years because she didn't want anything to do with her daughter anymore. (I think the letters Joan wrote to Christina were merely for show, since the nuns opened all the mail) Obviously, Christina knew that and was hurt. As I have mentioned before, my maternal grandmother was very much like Joan: an abusive alcoholic that never should have had a child. Part of it was that she made a virtual slave out of her only child. (cooking all the meals, scrubbing the floors, doing the laundry, you name it) Another part of it was that she used any excuse not to have her daughter around when she didn't feel like having her there. (Every summer, Mom was left with one of her aunts, all of whom had children of their own!) Out of respect for them both, I will not mention the physical abuse, which I assure you was plentiful and brutal. This is why I'm willing to believe much of what Christina wrote: Her upbringing sounds too much like my mother's.
To Shelley: Spelling mistakes start to drive me crazy after a while too, and believe me, I'm not trying to start any trouble here...but the word you were looking for in your post is 'decipher', not 'decifer'.
shelley posts on 1/4/2007 3:32:13 PM
amazingly i can understand all the posts here, because i am an educated woman i can decifer what it is that these poor people are trying to convey.. but please .. please.. LEARN how to spell !!... getting back to the subject matter... Joan was a demented , self absorbed , bitch only interested in two things... 1 her looks , 2 how the public adored her... poor cow , i hope she rots in hell..
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