Philip Pullman Message Board
posts on 6/19/2006 8:37:37 PM
I think you'll find Pullman was more influenced by 'Paradise Lost' by John Milton than CS Lewis, it's just that in interviews he is always asked about Lewis and Tolkien because they're well-known fantasy authors, and Christians, and he is a well known fantasy author, and very very not a Christian. His main issue with Lewis, I think, is that he was all about obedience, whereas the message of His Dark Materials is all about personal responsibility, and gaining knowledge through experience and 'building the Republic of Heaven where you are'. Does that make sense?
posts on 6/6/2006 7:54:29 PM
Umm, the daemons in Pullman's books are more like the Native American concept of spirit animals... they are -not- "demons" in the sense of being "fallen angels". However, Balthamos and Baruch, who were kicked out of heaven for falling in love with each other, definitely fall under the traditional heading of "demon."
posts on 6/6/2006 1:48:38 PM
hang on! wait! im sorry for being harsh, i feel guilty now, so im going to apologise, sorry pullman!
posts on 6/6/2006 1:21:27 PM
really? cheers! but yeah easy money, cos what i think hes doing is just copying lewis' ideas and doing the opposite, im not saying what he has is entirly a copy cos thier not, ive read them, they WERE very good books, i just dont approve... of all these daemons and him slagging off narnia!
posts on 6/3/2006 6:04:37 PM
Easy money off of Lewis?(reproachful) That's a rather harsh aspersion on Pullman, I have to say that. But what you said, elheret, has a grain of truth. I have to agree there.
posts on 6/1/2006 12:34:27 PM
thankyou lady. i am not offended but i would just LOVE to make a point here if you will let me. forget narnia just now amd think about the dark mats tril, if pullman is saying that his daemons are GOOD here and they do evil and narnia is bad when the main character is aslan...uh how on earth did he work that out? i think he is just makinging easy money off lewis, i would love to expand on this and i will if you let me but i dont want people getting nasty at me i dont want enimies here guys...
posts on 5/26/2006 5:12:43 PM
yes indeed, adam. it is ok to use violence if god tells you to. why? because it is GOD. however, when has he? and don't say the crusades in the middle ages because that was all man's ego. as for the son of god being represented by a lion, that was CS Lewis's idea. his way of showing the "king of animals". a majestic, fearsome creature. and did aslan EVER eat anyone?
posts on 5/26/2006 1:25:54 PM
Elheret, I beg to differ with your interperetation of Narnia. One of the main messages of the Narnia books was that it's okay to use violence if God tells you to. With God, or the son of god, here represented by a lion, a predatory and agressive animal. That sound like a god of love to you?
posts on 5/25/2006 9:41:33 PM
Gizzy, I happen to like Pullman's work. Hi! Huh, that was an interesting thing to say, Elheret. I don't mean 'interesting' in a bad way or anything, should you get offended. I'm going to think about this for a while...
posts on 5/10/2006 2:22:02 PM
what he said about narnia was that he wrote the dark materials trilogy as an antidote to narnia. how could he whan narnia is based on a religion where they worship a god of love!
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