Gavin Menzies Message Board
Lou Groner posts on 4/3/2006 3:10:23 PM
I am very skeptical concerning the lack of unambiguous evidence of a massive Chinese expedition in the Americas. Compare the hard archaaological evidence of a much tinier Viking presence as evidenced by the L'Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland compared with the few vague clues Menzies describes from the "1421" expeditions.
I am also troubled by the lack of evidence in China. Such huge expeditions must have created a substantial administrative, logistical, scientific and personal trail. Despite orders for destruction of records, it strains credulity to accept that no letters, reciepts, work orders, disbursements or inventories survived.
juan torrez posts on 1/23/2006 7:36:07 PM
all the figurines i am unearthing here in mexico have slanted eyes and chinese style clothing.. so i think your all wrong.. chinese were here 300-1000 bc.. and if want proof come and check it out.
NYH posts on 6/17/2005 12:01:04 PM
Being Chinese myself, I don't think foreigners should read "treat distant people with kindness" too literally. Chinese are not any more gentle than Europeans. Historically, they have slaughtered the so-called "barbarians"-the minority groups outside China's border.
I find it curious that the Chinese fleets managed to land everywhere including the Americas, Greenland, Antartica and North Pole (or close to it), but the only continent they missed was Europe???
Derek posts on 5/11/2005 11:11:08 AM
When slamming Menzies on the lack of imprint left in the Americas by the Chinese fleets, most critics have ignored a fact that was mentioned by Menzies himself. The Chinese explorers were instructed to "treat distant people with kindness" and therefore would be much more accepting of the Native American people and their culture than the Europeans ever were. Because of the lack of friction between the two peoples, the Chinese would not have left much of a trace from their visit. Therefore, Menzies has had a very faint path to follow in his research of the Chinese encounter in the Americas. With such examples as the Asiatic chickens and the Chinese anchor stones found off the coast of America, Menzies is providing proof of his new-found Chinese exploratory theory.
Jim Ricker posts on 5/5/2005 4:14:18 PM
Apparently, Mr. Menzies has conveniently forgotton the factual evidence uncovered by scientific archaeological excavations in the 1960s that proved the existence of a Norse settlement at L' Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland dating from the 10th or 11th century. Maybe a Englishman should learn European history before dabbling in oriental fantasy.
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