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MarkM posts on 4/25/2011 10:01:12 AM Angela, Sorry, I put your post in mine so I could reply to it, including spelling Lasalle's name correctly. Then I forgot to delete it before pressing Post, and as you know, we can't edit our posts here. You are right in your interpretation - I remembered the character of Tophat, just not his real name. It's been a while since I read Spy Wore Red. Recently, when I was reviewing chapters from a couple of books on OSS training, and certain passages rang a bell, I pulled my old copy of Spy Wore Red off the shelf, thumbed through it to the chapters on her training at the Farm and reread those, but didn't reread the entire book.
Angela posts on 4/24/2011 10:24:43 PM Roseanne, I posted the original comment beginning with Okay! I guess MarkM rewrote my entry a second time so we wouldn't question what he was responding to. Mark knew who Tophat was, just not that his real name was Edmundo Lasalle. I'm not pointing any fingers in my referral to mudflinging, I'm just hoping we can all discuss these books with respect towards eachother. I mean, we're all obviously fascinated with the Countess, otherwise we wouldn't be here. That includes the people who question her work! It's the questions that keep these discussions going, otherwise we're just a bunch of adoring fans repeating ourselves.
Roseanne H posts on 4/24/2011 8:04:23 PM Angela, did you accidently put the name of MarkM as the author of YOUR post? I ask that, because of the wording, and also because your name appears on an identical post as the author. It is also curious that MarkM, in a recent post, states that Huddleston seems QUOTE to have a particular interest in the Romanones portrayal of Edmundo Lasalle, though I cannot say that I remember this person or what she wrote about him END QUOTE. Huh? MarkM is so relentless in his criticism of the Countess, yet he cannot remember the character Top Hat, which predominantly figures in her first three books? That only solidifies his hypocrisy and meaningless comments.



Anita posts on 4/23/2011 9:36:17 PM If you have not read "Edmundo" then I suggest it to you all. It is well written, by Mr. Huddleston. I also think The Countess, embelishments or not,when she included Edmundo in her book, had him come to life . Frankly, I would have enjoyed knowing him, and he was quite a character. For me he "jumped right out of the pages"!I did promise Mr. Huddleston that when and if I get to the National Archives I would get research for him, and I meant it! Happy Holiday to you all.
Angela posts on 4/23/2011 4:49:36 PM Hi Mark. Yes, I do believe that the Countess acknowledged that she embellished certain events for added drama, but the fact that she is up front about this only adds to her credibility to me. Never having been a professional spy, I can only imagine that as a spy, and one wqrking for the government at that, one is held to a certain code of secrecy and discretion, even long after the events took place. Therefore, I can only go by what I know and feel in my gut, and my gut tells me that Aline is the real thing, embellishments and all! I trust her to tell me a story that gives me an authentic taste of the dish without giving away the secret recipe.
MarkM posts on 4/23/2011 9:13:57 AM Okay! This is some good discussion we have going on. If we can just get past the mud flinging, we can actually have some meaningful thoughts to ponder. MarkM, in my opinion, the Countesses books are way different than Frey's bogus memoir. First of all, Aline had to disguise people and change places and events to protect people. She says right in the preface of each book why she wrote them the way she did. It makes perfect sense to me, and to be honest, I would question the integrity of a person who would be so revealing in detail as to cause harm to the characters in the book. As I understand it, Mr. Huddleston is married to a daughter of Edmundo Lasalle, or the spy Tophat in Aline's books. Correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Huddleston. Mark, Tophat is the dashing sidekick that introduces newcomer Aline to Spain's high society. Angela, thanks, you make some good points. Certainly it would make sense to protect certain identities. However I seem to remember Romanones stating she had done more than that, that she said she also altered events for a more dramatic story? If Mr. Huddleston is the son-in-law of Lasalle, that does change things somewhat. And I do remember Tophat, thanks!
Angela posts on 4/23/2011 12:56:57 AM Okay! This is some good discussion we have going on. If we can just get past the mud flinging, we can actually have some meaningful thoughts to ponder. MarkM, in my opinion, the Countesses books are way different than Frey's bogus memoir. First of all, Aline had to disguise people and change places and events to protect people. She says right in the preface of each book why she wrote them the way she did. It makes perfect sense to me, and to be honest, I would question the integrity of a person who would be so revealing in detail as to cause harm to the characters in the book. As I understand it, Mr. Huddleston is married to a daughter of Edmundo Lasalle, or the spy Tophat in Aline's books. Correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Huddleston. Mark, Tophat is the dashing sidekick that introduces newcomer Aline to Spain's high society.
Triall1c posts on 4/22/2011 8:05:48 PM Today I took out my copy of The Story of Pascualete also known as An American in Spain and The Earth Rests Lightly. I remembered the chapter, Holy Week in Trujillo and wanted to re-read. It gave me such a good feeling! I hope the Countess is there now, doing and experiencing the same wonderful traditions that she has always enjoyed.
MarkM posts on 4/22/2011 5:35:54 PM Robert, I know in Frey's case, Random House offered to refund the money of any reader who bought A Million Little Pieces before the truth came to light, and of course he was dropped from book deals, and in some of the other cases you cite, I read that the publishers demanded that the authors and their agents return all monies to them, but I am wondering, was there ever a case where a memoir which later proved false led to fraud charges being filed? Another question, in cases where these memoirs turned out to be untrue, were there any cases where unflattering portrayals of third parties in the memoirs resulted in libel or defamation of character suits? I figured you might have researched the last answer since you seem to have a particular interest in Romanone's portrayal of Edmundo Lasalle (though I can't say I remember this person or what she wrote about him).
Roseanne H posts on 4/22/2011 3:41:40 PM Angela, I agree with you that Elinor Donahue strongly resembles the Countess and can easily play her in the present day. I am still trying to figure out who could play the younger Aline Griffith. The Countess had once mentioned Katie Holmes to me, which would be a great choice. I hope someone makes a movie soon. By the way, I do not use certain punctuations in my posts, because they appear as meaningless characters on this message board, like MarkM and Huddleston. Sorry, I could not resist that one.
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