V.C. Andrews Message Board
Grace posts on 12/16/2007 6:05:17 PM
Well said Virginia. Yeah, I think the new Attic series is good. I thinkn the second will be better. I like Hentai Anime (sp?) and yes, I like stories involving consentual incest b/c it seems to be the last taboo.
Sheri posts on 12/15/2007 12:15:07 PM
Did anybody read Secrets in the Attic? It is a very good book.
Virginia posts on 12/8/2007 5:32:10 PM
I think about this subject of incestious relationships. I think that what Virginia Andrews did with the chacters Chris and Cathy was to show how it could be possible that it happens with some kind of dignity, when in most cases it would be horrifying to hear about. We understand Cathy for making the haunting choices she makes and we forgive her as our heroine. And mostly, we would never want to have to make the choices she has made.
Christopher posts on 11/30/2007 4:13:50 PM
I have heard much praise for the new ATTIC book. What is its premise? I am still drudging through the DEBEERS saga. Willow DeBeers and her lover Thatcher Eaton are rather unlikable stars. They are cold and snobby. While more intelligent than most heroines Willow does show how being smart does not make one a better person. She is impressionable and reluctant to form friendships. She sees everything as a contract. If it does not benefit her enough it is not worth getting involved. While this attitude keeps her out of danger, it also keeps her alone. Her mother Graces story will probably be better as she like most VCA heroines was raped and impregnated by her stepfather whom had her institutionalized where she fell in lover with her doctor. I am also finishing off the SHOOTING STARS series which should be avoided only one of the 4 heroines Rose had a real VCA childhood.
Tina posts on 11/26/2007 1:15:55 PM
I really liked V.C. Andrews newest release "Secrets in the Attic". It was very well thought out and I enjoyed every page. Finally the ghost writer is connecting with his audience instead of writing drivel and expecting long time fans not to notice. I suggest this book to anyone who wants to get back in touch with V.C. Andrews roots.
Christopher posts on 11/24/2007 10:48:55 PM
Dear Kevin yes hentai anime certainly is mainly about rape and or blackmail. I actually found a first VCA reference in anime in the comedy series THIS UGLY YET BEAUTIFUL WORLD the sister says QUOTE There is no Flowers in the Attic thing going on here. UNQUOTE There is a sharp decline in heroines being raped in VCA. Those poor Foxworths and Culters, sexual predators infested their families and sweet Audrinas life was filled with rapists. Melody Logan should have taught a self defense course as she avoided the most number of rapes. In UNFINISHED SYMPHONY alone by only page 178 she survived 3 attempted rapes. Not that I want the heroines to be raped but it seems Andrew Niederman or the publisher is wimping out by toning down the violence and adding in unnecessary political correctness. Writers should not have boundaries.
Kevin posts on 11/24/2007 5:15:10 AM
Actually, not only is some Anime about incest, but most of it is about rape. Especially if it's porno.... Don't ask me how i know that lol.
Christopher posts on 11/12/2007 6:55:15 PM
Is everyone here aware of the exorbitant amount of incest is anime. Not just series about incestuous relationships but it very common place, typically used for comedy or the psychotic portrayal of villains. A recent series TOKKO stars a brother and sister whom work together as crime fighter and share an apartment. The sister teases the brother by not wearing clothes and joining him in the bathtub to show him what he cannot have. The sexual tension is NOT helped by their fellow cops who joke about what could be going on. This inevitably causes the brother to be suspiciously over zealous in his denials. QUOTE Thats sick, shes my sister. Nothing happened! Nothing! Nothing! UNQUOTE. Incest is not the focal point of the show but it is more gutsy than anything the western world would try on TV. PLEASE TWINS is another comedy series about a young man who shares a house with two girls. The three all have a crush on each other but a family photos reveals that one girl is his sister and one is not. The sexual intention increases as he faces a 50 percent chance of sleeping with his sister. KAO KAZE is a purely romantic series about a 25 year old man who lives with his divorcee father until a long lost 15 year old sister comes to live with them. The situation is perilous as the 25 year old brother is an adult who should know better and for the young sister this is her first crush. Things are not helped at work as his coworkers come are encouraging and even envious of him. They wish they had teenage sisters.
Kevin posts on 11/1/2007 2:02:51 AM
Donnie darko freaked me out. But it was pretty good. I can also play "Mad world" on the piano, but good suggestion.
Christopher posts on 10/31/2007 12:26:07 PM
Dear all if you like pyromania I strongly recommend the film DONNIE DARKO it is very surreal in a David Lynch type of way. The critics panned it but much like RESIVOIR DOGS hard core fans brought it into the light. Andrews always said her books were not autobiographical, but certainly they must be based on something. I believe much of the Dollanganger saga is symbolism for growing pains. Cathys fears and isolation were like those she would have experienced even in the outside world, going through puberty, and being a teenager. Likewise Chris sexual frustration would have existed regardless. It was only focused on Cathy because she was the only teenage girl around him. By PEDALS ON THE WIND it was obvious that Cathy and Chris were fated and could never love another, even a hero like Paul, because they were the only ones capable of understanding the shear horror of what they had survived together. Dawn and Jimmys relationship also flourished due to sexual tension. If Jimmy had narrated the story it would have been told very differently. Cary Logans sexual feelings were laid more bare in his conversations with Melody. Cary and his relationship with his twin sister Laura was more a result of the them being too close. While it was good they were best friends as children, when they grew into young adults this became unhealthy. Laura took the advise of her friends and made new friends and a boyfriend spending less time with Cary. While Cary made few friends and became more obsessed with Laura. As young adults there were some things they should not do together. Laura was able to accept this and adjust to this while sadly Cary was not. As Cary confessed to Melody, he was truly devastated when Laura started locking her door for the first time and going to social events without him. Growing up meant growing apart.
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